It was an hour and a half of Jamal Bowman exposing what he is, is a sleazy politician.

I'm very compassionate to what you were driving at, which is that this accusation by him

that people who were doing forced the vote were just not very nice.

Oh, there's such meanies.

Do you know, Brianna, I heard that every day from the Democratic Party, oh,

you're so mean. They would come to my office and say, I don't disagree with you about this or

the renter's rights or about 15, but do you have to be so mean? The

The All right. It's always such a pleasure to have on Bad Faith podcast, former Seattle City Councilwoman, Shama Sawant, one of the few leaders on the left that has been unflagging and consistent and incredibly disciplined

as we try to chart our way forward in the post-Burdy left world. Welcome back to the podcast,

Shama. Glad to be back here. Nice to see you, Brianna. It's always such a pleasure. Look, the elephant

in the room, at least as far as I'm concerned, is that we most recently did an episode with former representative, Jamal Bowman.

It came out on Monday. If you haven't taken a listen to it already, or if you're not a subscriber, and you've only heard the public 30 minutes of the 90

minute interview that we put for free on bad faith YouTube. I encourage you to listen to all of it.

Because for me, it was a moment that was a long time coming. For years, I have wanted to

get on the record and know for sure what was going through the squad members' heads

as they had what in retrospect was the largest potential coalition of progressives in the house

that we have had in modern history, what their plans were, how much they were willing to act as a squad.

And in particular, what their thinking was around the choice not to act on the force of the

vote moment, given that that was the opportunity where their number would have made a difference

because of the small margin that Democrats had over Republicans in the

House at the time. Their votes were dispositive. And so the question was what they were going to do

with that leverage and that opportunity. And I can't speak for the audience, although the comment

...