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Episode 465 Promo - The Future of Protest (w/ Danaka Katovitch)

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4.52.6K Ratings

🗓️ 14 April 2025

⏱️ 8 minutes

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National Co-Director of feminist anti-war group Code Pink Danaka Katovitch joins Bad Faith to discuss Sen. Tom Cotton's attacks on their group and Sen. Jim Banks' allegation that Code Pink is in violation of the Foreign Agents Registration Act. Since October 7th, establishment politicians have been cracking down on protests. In the wake of April 5th's huge anti-Trump protests, we ask, what is the future of civil disobedience and direct action? Are they effective politcal tools, or just outlets for the managed release of public discontent? Does Code Pink have insights and/or strategies to maximize this moment?

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0:00.0

I find myself a little frustrated sometimes that we're all just talking around what we're not doing or maybe not willing to ask people to do because it is a big ask and it's scary to suggest that people put themselves in harms away in that way. And I totally get that. I'm certainly not sitting here in my air condition apartmentitioned apartment directing people, but I feel compelled to say out loud that that's the elephant in the room. I mean, how are you seeing all of this?

0:27.7

No, I absolutely agree with you. On the first point, I hope at one time soon we can all convene around a single third party and get some stuff done. I really hope so.

0:39.5

I have a friend in Gaza I talk to pretty much every day. And he's always like, why can't you all

0:46.5

risk your lives for us, essentially, is what he's saying. If you all care about this, you see

0:53.2

what's happening.

0:54.7

You see our brothers and sisters literally torn apart with their intestines hanging out of their bodies.

1:01.7

You see mothers carrying their decapitated children.

1:05.7

You see this on your phones.

1:07.0

Why can't you just not go to work one day and shut the economy down? And obviously,

1:14.0

we know that it requires a level of labor organization that we don't really have in this country.

1:20.4

Unions are pretty liberalized and not willing to shut their industry down over Gaza.

1:27.3

Yeah, absent a wildcat strike,

1:29.3

that's also the kind of thing that no one's saying.

1:31.9

Look, I'm not a labor organizer.

1:33.2

I'm not a labor expert.

1:34.0

I really don't want to get over my skis on this.

1:37.6

But I am reminded of the political education

1:40.6

that I got when joining workers strike back

1:42.9

and talking about the protests in

1:46.3

1968 and France and how that's I'm not saying like you know the labor people are always like

1:51.9

Brianna protest don't start spontaneously you're a big naive moron like I get it I get it it's

1:56.9

anomalous and you shouldn't rely on that but also there are these historical examples where it did happen that way.

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