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Episode 61: Christmaker! With James McGrath

Data Over Dogma

Data Over Dogma Media, LLC

Society & Culture, History

4.81.1K Ratings

🗓️ 3 June 2024

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

Get ready for some fascinating stuff! It won't be a baptism by fire, but we will be immersed in some cutting edge information about John the Baptist. Dr. James McGrath joins us to discuss John and his new book Christmaker. And trust us- you're going to learn some cool stuff. Many people's image of John is just a wild-haired itinerant preacher dressed like a cave man and roaming the desert and dunking people in water every chance he got. It turns out, he was likely a far more important and more interesting figure than that. Was he a disciple of Jesus, or was it the other way around? For early access to an ad-free version of every episode of Data Over Dogma, exclusive content, and an opportunity to support our work, please consider becoming a monthly patron at: https://www.patreon.com/DataOverDogma Follow us on the various social media places: https://www.facebook.com/DataOverDogmaPod https://www.twitter.com/data_over_dogma Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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It's in the gospel. He must increase while I must decrease. He kind of passes the baton.

0:05.6

Yeah, and that's made so explicit in the Gospel of John that scholars, you know, historically skeptical

0:11.4

scholars are like yeah right how convenient

0:20.7

hey everybody I'm Dan McClellan and I'm Dan Beecher and you are listening to the

0:25.5

Data Over Dogma Podcast where we increase public access to the academic study of

0:30.6

the Bible and religion and combat the spread of misinformation about the same.

0:35.9

How go things Dan?

0:36.9

Man, I'm ready to go.

0:38.8

This is, I'm excited because, uh, we've got a guest today and I think some mines are going to get blue.

0:48.0

We're going to blow some mines.

0:50.0

Yeah.

0:51.0

And not in the Arrested development sense, but in something hopefully a little more productive, a little more constructive.

0:58.0

Our guest today's a long time friend of mine, James F. McGrath. Welcome to the show James. Thanks so much. So good to be here on

1:06.4

D and D, D over D. That's right. And James is a professor of New Testament at Butler University in lovely Indiana.

1:16.2

I don't know that I've ever, what city in Indiana is?

1:19.2

Indianapolis.

1:20.0

It is Indianapolis. Okay.

1:22.2

Right there in India, all right.

1:24.0

All right.

1:25.0

Well, I want, James, I want you to know that I was talking to Dan about you,

1:30.0

and at one point he said, of, he said a sentence that I heard as he's a butler and I was like he's

1:40.1

You've got a side job as a button. No, no, no, okay fine. He's got a side job as a button.

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