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🗓️ 31 August 2023
⏱️ 46 minutes
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Coco told a lot of lies about her connection to Celine Dion. But to everyone’s surprise, one of the things she said about Celine appears to be rooted in truth. But a conversation that was meant to be a light-hearted look into Coco’s obsession with a pop star quickly turns more serious, as we examine the human cost of Coco’s lies. Plus, thanks to some clues Coco left behind, we get our first real glimpse into her mental health.
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0:00.0 | A note before we get started. We are using AI generated voices in this |
0:06.2 | podcast. We'll let you know when it's happening because the lawyers say we have to. |
0:11.2 | And a warning. This episode includes mention of sexual violence |
0:14.5 | against children, rape, and murder. Listen with care. |
0:19.3 | The destination is on your left. The red door. It's a |
0:25.0 | door. It's a pretty house. It is. |
0:28.0 | Arrived. |
0:29.0 | In January, when producer Karen Givin and I visited Utah together, we went to the place where Coco was living when she was arrested in early 2022. |
0:38.0 | Well, it's Sunday morning, about 1130. |
0:42.7 | Of course, there's a church right at the bottom of the hill |
0:45.3 | and we assume that people are probably mostly gathered there, |
0:48.9 | but should we knock on the door just to see? |
0:51.4 | I know door knocking is not your favorite thing. |
0:53.4 | Door knocking is not my favorite thing. Door knocking is not my favorite thing either, but I |
0:58.9 | find it to be a very effective journalistic tool. Okay, let's go try to talk to Katie. |
1:03.4 | Okay. |
1:04.4 | We were looking for a woman named Katie, who was renting a room to Coco when the police |
1:08.8 | came to arrest her. |
1:10.4 | I had called Katie and emailed her several times but she didn't respond and I |
1:14.8 | wanted to try once more to see what she might have to say about Coco's last few |
1:20.2 | days as the person who she wanted the world to think she was. |
1:24.6 | As we approach, Katie's two golden-doodle dogs come to the door. |
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