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See in store for T's and C's. So, I'm going to do. I can't think of a better way to start 2023 than by signing up for Richard Groves autonomy course. He's going into season nine and every

season he's adding more information in there to help you grow. I've said this before. I don't think that I could have gotten

through 2020 and be where I am right now if I were not a participant in season one.

So head on over to freemamb beyond the wall

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check it out and get on Richard's level. Thank you. I want to welcome everyone back to the Pekinetta show.

Let's talk a little bit about something different today, Thomas. How are you doing?

I'm doing well. Thank you for hosting me. Yeah, we can talk about we can change up the we can change up the subject definitely. Yep. We'll get back to the Cold War on the next one, but I've read Yaki. I started reading Spangler, one of the essays that you recommended, and it just speaks to me really speaks to my heart and I know that Spangler and especially

Yaki are a big part of your of your thought and you're where you've taken a lot of inspiration from so thought would do a little

episode and I think they go together because Yaki uses so many spanglerisms and

seems to have really dug deep into his work and integrated into his work.

So I guess let's start with the original.

What is it about Spangler that attracted you first?

Well, frankly, especially as the Cold War Resolved,

Spangler was one of these, one of the only what we consider

esoteric kind of thinkers that he came to before the internet. There's a two

volume it was it was a bridge but it it was the two-valium a bridge version of the

coin of the west that I think Harvard University Press had put out in the 50s, but that's a double

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