Now entering Nurdist.com. You're telling me there's no such thing as mah.

You're telling me there's no such thing as mafia? I'm saying there is no such thing as mafia, yes.

But when we both say the word we have an understanding of what this means.

Well sure the same way we both understand what Godzilla means but there's no such thing as

Godzilla. It's a creation. It's a myth. It's a creation of the media.

How long have you been working as a lawyer for the mafia?

There's no mafia.

Right, I understand that.

I've been a lawyer for 12 years.

Did you know at the beginning what kind of people you were dealing with?

What do you mean fake people you were dealing with? What do you mean fake people? They're real

businessmen that I represent. They're real businessmen that I represent who have

been tarnished due to stereotyping and racism and racism and

racism.

Yeah racism.

Because everybody looks at Italian Americans and they go, oh mafia.

No, these are men in the construction industry, these

are men in the waste disposal industry, these are men in the teamsters, these are men in the

trucking industry, these are hard-working family men. Good men. Good men who get tarnished by...

Who call or and wife? Of course. Men across the spectrum, the financial spectrum, just

trying to provide for their families. And you, in your decision, try to protect them?

I defend them when they get falsely accused of things, yes.

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