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Today I am literally recording looking like a classic example of a quasi-slavic businessman or whatever the fuck sitting in my in my

office shouting at my phone because I am an idiot that pretty much has the same headphones for like 10 or 12 years at this point.

And right as we were supposed to record the episode, they just died on me.

Then I continued to ravage the entire apartment.

Behind me, there's literally like 15 girls' bags all over the floor

because I remembered my partner has air pods, so maybe I could use those so that there's no

echo while we actually fucking record it's probably gonna murder me when she

sees what I did to her like small closet but we decided we did the big brain play where I'm recording from a microphone, but in order

for the voice not to be as loud of my two beautiful colleagues right here coming out of the computer, I'm actually

talking to them on the phone.

It reminds me of pretty much 99% of all my time I spent with my dad, which was basically him on the phone and me looking up with him.

So I guess all that goes around comes around to an extent.

That's the one perspective and the other as always the most

tortured class of podcasters needs to talk about how tortured they are and the

things we do for you. This could have easily been postponed etc etc but no. they are

appreciate it.

the things we do for you.

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