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and conditions apply this is the book ride podcast i'm jeff o'neill and i'm rebecca schinsky and today we're

joined by just pride to talk about romance in its many forms and

what's going on in the world of romance. You're listening to this today, if you're listening on

day one on February 12th, so the Valentine's Day weekend is coming. You still have time to pick

out something for yourself or someone else in your life if a Valentine-shaped book is interesting to you.

I also just want to ask Jess some questions about how the romance world is feeling right now

in their ascendance, right? What are we thinking about romance, interesting trends that she's seeing?

Rebecca arranged this. So what do we want to talk to with Jess about, Rebecca? What are you most

interested to do? I pinged Jess right after you and I went on our fourth wing adventure.

Yes. And was like, we need an expert who can talk to us about like, not just romance, but

like romanticese specifically. And so the origins of the genre, even before we had the category

title. So what are earlier examples of a mix of fantasy and romance? How did this come to be the

thing that it is right now? And I would personally like to know, like, if I did not care for

fourth wing, but I'm still interested in trying some kind of

romantic see that's like maybe better written than fourth wing was what should I read also if

fourth wing super worked for you maybe what are some under the radar recommendations and maybe

you know some romanticcy that's not by white ladies well hello thank you so much for having. There's a lot there's a lot there.

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