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Hello and welcome to the Sophie Ridge on Sunday podcast.

Now, today we've got a bit of a different podcast for you because we're just going to focus

on one interview and that is an interview with the Conservative MP Jamie Wallace.

He speaks very powerfully about becoming the first openly transgender MP and also his own terrible experience of rape

and blackmail. I'm joined by Scott Beasley. Hello, Sophie. Hi Scott. I mean, you've been

heavily involved in this interview as well, haven't you, in sort of securing it and also in

them you were there when we did the interview as well. And I think it's fair to say that both me and

you are pretty moved. Yeah, I think we were. And as you as well. And I think it's fair to say that both me and you are pretty moved.

Yeah, I think we were.

And as you said at the start there, it feels like a very different week for us, doesn't it, this week, I think.

To do an interview like that, that in some ways, you know, is very different to the sort of things that often we're doing.

It's not the knock about politics.

It's not one party slapping the other,

it's talking about, you know, very human, very, you know, very powerful emotions.

And I think that, as you say, affected both of us, didn't that?

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