Fair Or Foul Play? The Controversy Over Trans Athletes In Women’s Sports

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Dr. Phil McGraw

Mental Health, Self-improvement, Society & Culture, Education, Health & Fitness

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🗓️ 1 April 2025

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

We’ll tackle one of the most heated debates in sports —should transgender athletes be allowed to compete in women’s sports?

The conflict over whether transgender athletes should be allowed to compete in women’s sports has sparked controversy in locker rooms, courtrooms, and even the White House. President Trump’s latest executive order is shaking up the rules, the battle lines are drawn even deeper. We’ll talk to a former college star athlete whose team lost when faced with a trans opponent, a transgender activist who believes it’s a transperson’s right to compete in sports that align with their new identity and a transwoman, against trans athletes participating in women’s sports who says she’s proof trans women have an advantage over biological women. This is more than just policy—it’s an urgent conversation about real people, real struggles, and the fight for understanding, respect, and fairness.

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0:00.0	Should transgender athletes compete in women's sports?
0:04.0	Going through male puberty puts you at a biological advantage.
0:08.0	Trans women are women, so let's just be clear.
0:11.0	There's no amount of hormones that will ever erase a biological advantage that you have.
0:17.0	The advantages of height, wingspan, bone strength.
0:20.0	What you're showing me are male statistics statistics and trans women are not male.
0:24.4	Dr.
0:25.4	Welcome to the Dr. Phil podcast and boy, do we have an interesting and controversial program for you tonight.
0:40.9	We are talking about whether or not transgender athletes should be able to participate in sports.
0:50.8	And we're talking about all sports, but we're particularly focusing on elite sports,
0:57.0	particularly NCAA and college sports. My guest tonight include values, beliefs, ideals,
1:04.6	objectives all over the charts. Linnea is a former cross-country track and field college star.
1:11.6	She is fighting to save women's sports after being forced to face a trans athlete in women's
1:17.6	NCAA Division I conference.
1:20.6	At 21, her team lost in a championship conference race against a trans athlete, and this may have been the first ever,
1:32.3	actually. She really has continued to fight even after her college career. Blossom is here,
1:40.3	a transgender activist that believes it's a trans person's right to compete in sports that align with their new identity.
1:50.0	Blossom believes that a trans woman is a woman.
1:54.0	She graduated from Mississippi U for women with a bachelor's degree in public health,
1:59.0	and she is advocating for a gender-neutral
2:02.0	Olympics, and she's going to tell us what she means and why. Third, joining me is Sarah,
2:07.8	a trans woman and voice against trans athletes participating in women's sports. Sarah is an activist athlete, former army officer, and campaigns against trans women competing in women's sports because she says it's just not fair. She's been wrestling since she was four. She's been in the army and been in athletics all of her life, and she says, there's nothing
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