Fair Use, Copyright, And Licensing. AI And The Author Business With Alicia Wright

The Creative Penn Podcast For Writers

Joanna Penn

Self-improvement, Arts, Books, Entrepreneurship, Business, Education

4.8 • 745 Ratings

🗓️ 27 January 2025

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

How does generative AI relate to fair use when it comes to copyright? What are the possibilities for AI licensing? Alicia Wright shares her thoughts on generative AI for authors.

In the intro, Publishing leaders share 9 Bold Predictions for 2025 [BookBub]; OpenAI launches Operator [The Verge]; Bertelsmann (who own Penguin Random House) intends to work with OpenAI to expand and accelerate the use of artificial intelligence (AI) in the media, services, and education sectors; Death Valley — A Thriller.

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Alicia Wright is an intellectual property lawyer for a technology company, and also writes science fiction and mystery as Alicia Ellis. With two degrees in computer science and an MFA in writing popular fiction, she is expertly placed to comment on AI as it applies to writers.

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Show Notes

* Using AI as a brainstorming partner and collaborator

* AI as fair use because it creates something transformative

* Using the right prompts to produce quality outputs from AI

* AI is the next technological change in our society

* Licensing your IP for training and AI usage — what to look for in contracts

* Training the AI systems to include your work in generative searches

* Developing your authorial voice and creative confidence

* Uitlizing AI agents in your author business

You can find Alicia at WriterAlicia.com and on social media @WriterAlicia.

Transcript of Interview with Alicia Wright

Joanna: Alicia Wright is an intellectual property lawyer for a technology company, and also writes science fiction and mystery as Alicia Ellis.

With two degrees in computer science and an MFA in writing popular fiction, she is expertly placed to comment on AI as it applies to writers, which we're talking about today. So welcome to the show, Alicia.

Alicia: Thank you so much, Jo. I'm happy to be here.

Joanna: Oh, I'm excited to talk to you. So first up—

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0:00.0	Welcome to the Creative Pen podcast. I'm Joanna Penn, thriller author and creative entrepreneur,
0:08.0	bringing you interviews, inspiration and information on writing craft and creative business.
0:14.7	You can find the episode show notes, your free author blueprint, and lots more at thecreativepen.com.
0:22.5	And that's Penn with a double N. And here's the show.
0:27.1	Hello, creatives. I'm Joanna Penn, and this is episode number 792 of the podcast, and it
0:33.6	is Saturday, the 25th of January 2025, as I record this. In today's show, I talk to
0:40.5	intellectual property lawyer and author Alicia Wright, who has degrees in computer science, law and also
0:47.2	an MFA. So she is perfectly positioned to talk about artificial intelligence and generative
0:52.7	AI and how to think about it as writers. And why we shouldn't be scared about it. We talk about artificial intelligence and generative AI and how to think about it as writers.
0:55.5	And why we shouldn't be scared about it. We talk about copyright, fair use, licensing, prompting
1:01.0	quality, working with the AI tools as collaborators, AI agents and much more. So that's coming up
1:08.3	in the interview section.
1:15.5	In writing and publishing things.
1:19.3	First, a correction from last week's interview with Kevin J. Anderson.
1:25.3	He mentioned using a tool for AI transcription of his dictated words and mistakenly said Mac write.
1:26.3	But he asked me to update this. It should be Mac Whisper.
1:29.8	And I've put that in the show notes as ever. So Bookbub has published an article this week.
1:35.1	Publishing Leaders share nine bold predictions for 2025. And the Bookbub blog is very good.
1:41.9	And they usually focus on marketing. Obviously, it's atights.bookbub.com links in the show notes.
1:48.3	So I'll just go through a few of these.
1:50.8	Prediction 1. Innovative new ways of consuming stories will emerge,
1:54.9	while digital formats will continue to grow in popularity.
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