You're listening to Faith for Normal People, the only other God ordained podcast on the Internet.

I'm Pete Ends.

And I'm Jared Bias.

Hey everyone, we hope you've had a great summer as we approach September.

We want to let you know that for the rest of this season, we're going to stick to that

bi-weekly alternating rhythm where there is a show each week alternating between Bible

for Normal People and Faith for Normal People that we've had throughout the summer.

And you know folks, thank you so much for all your support and for continuing to listen.

We couldn't do this without you on behalf of not just us, but the whole podcast production

team.

We are really grateful for how you've embraced the changes we've made starting Faith

for Normal People and really digging into biblical scholarship on Bible for Normal People.

Thank you.

Today on Faith for Normal People, just me, Jared, but not just me actually, because I'm

talking about the body of Faith with Cole Arthur Riley.

Cole is a writer, poet, author of the New York Times bestseller, This Here Flesh, Spirituality,

Liberation, and the stories that make us as well as the creator of black liturgies.

So don't forget to stay tuned at the end of the episode for Quiet Time where Pete and

I will reflect on the conversation with Cole, but for now, let's get into the conversation.

I think sometimes the path to like an embodied emotional integrated life might be the path

the way from whatever form of Christianity you find yourself in, if one is willing to

contend with the ways that greed and whiteness and supremacy have fed off of the Christian traditions.

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