I don't know what most white people in this country feel, but I can only include what they feel from the state of their institution.

Now, this is the evidence.

You want me to make an act of faith risking myself, my wife, my woman, my sister, my children,

on some idealism which you assure me

exists in America, which I have never seen. Welcome back to Black History for White People,

a podcast where we educate, resource, and challenge white people about black history. I'm Brad,

and on today's show are my co-host Katina and

Garrett. Today's topic is Faithful Anti-Racism. We are joined by the Dr. Christina Edmondson

and Chad Brennan. Dr. Edminson is a higher education instructor and organizational consultant

in the areas of ethics, equity,

and Christian leadership development. She's also a co-host of the Truth's Table podcast.

Chad is coordinator of the Race, Religion, and Justice Project, and founder of Renew Partnerships,

a Christian Research and Consulting Ministry that focuses on diversity and race and faith-based

organizations.

They join us to talk about their book that was recently released called Faithful Anti-Racism,

Moving Past Talk to Systemic Change.

It's a really great book, and we'll say this again at the end, but if you go in the show

notes and click the link, you can purchase the book and get 30% off

if you use the code B history.

That's B as in boy, history.

If you use that code, the next two weeks, it'll be 30% off.

We asked Christina and Chad a bunch of questions about the book, and we were so thankful

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