This episode contains discussion of sexual violence and listener discretion is advised.

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Hello and welcome to Full Disclosure, a podcast project that lets me spend more time than I'd ever get on the radio with interesting people.

Although this week, I think for the first time ever, I have spent time on the radio with my guest, and now we're doing full disclosure.

Fat and Whitbread, welcome.

Thank you, James. I'm really delighted to be here and I'm looking forward to this podcast.

It's a privilege to have you, not least because you're box fresh from the BBC Sports Personality of the Year awards

where you picked up the Helen Rollison Award for achievement in the face of adversity.

You know, I was mighty proud about that.

You know, having been a past winner in 1987.

And a runner-up the year before.

I've done my research.

Yeah, you knew that.

So to be receiving this award, the Helen Rollington Award,

was quite special for me because Helen and I were friends

anyway. Of course. And yeah, I'd obviously been Helen's first interview for, you know, an international

athlete. I just finished the World Championships and won, and I got a call from Helen. She said, oh,

she said, I wonder if you don't mind. She said, if I can, you could be my first interview. And I said,

of course not. And yeah, so it was

wonderful that she gave me this opportunity through the Helen Rollison Award to, to get my message

out regarding our young children, which is what I'm doing now, children's advocacy really for

children in the care system. Because, I mean, all winners of that award have faced adversity.

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