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Federal Regulation and the 'Department' of Government Efficiency (DOGE)

Cato Daily Podcast

Caleb Brown

Politics, News Commentary, 424708, Libertarian, Markets, Cato, News, Immigration, Peace, Policy, Government, Defense

4.6949 Ratings

🗓️ 25 November 2024

⏱️ 16 minutes

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Summary

How much should we expect in terms of enhanced liberty and savings for taxpayers from the "Department" of Government Efficiency? Cato's Tom Firey and the Pacific Legal Foundation's Willie Yeatman break down some elements of the challenge.

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0:00.0

This is the Cater Daily podcast for Monday, November 25th, 2024.

0:08.8

I'm Caleb Brown.

0:09.8

The administrative state wasn't built in a day, but there are high hopes for a radical reduction in federal regulation governing the lives of Americans.

0:18.6

The so-called Department of Government Efficiency and decidedly non-governmental entity will provide recommendations for spending, workforce, and regulatory cuts.

0:28.2

Cato's Tom Fiery and Willie Yatman of the Pacific Legal Foundation break down the hopes and hurdles that lie in the way.

0:36.2

There is a common, and I think it's troublesome view, for it's troublesome for a couple of reasons.

0:44.0

And that view is, once we get our guy in there in government, that guy is really going to do incredible things.

1:00.2

And with specific respect to the focus on Donald Trump's various cabinet appointments, there is a strong desire to have, for example, RFK Jr., if he is

1:07.7

confirmed at HHS, to simply change radically lots of things about how HHS functions and what it does.

1:15.2

The Doge Department of Government Efficiency, there is a view that the recommendations that are made by Vivek Ramoswamy and Elon Musk will pay enormous dividends. And of course, I'm all for

1:30.7

radical reductions in both the impositions that government puts upon all of us and, of course,

1:38.1

the spending that they do every year. But how simple is this task? And Tom, I'll start with you when we talk

1:48.1

about the administrative state, when we talk about slashing regulations, it seems like the

1:56.0

U.S. will have a more difficult time with that than someone like Javier Malay has had in undertaking a similar task in Argentina.

2:06.2

This is my 25th year of doing regulatory policy and observing the administrative state at the Cato Institute.

2:14.5

I admit, for many of my first years, I would always be excited that someone

2:19.3

knew was coming in, and I would think, this guy gets it. This guy is really going to go after it.

2:25.6

These people coming in are really going to go after it. And, you know, and they would be people

2:31.3

who seem to be ideologically determined to do so,

2:35.3

philosophically determined to do so.

2:37.1

And yet very little changes or even worse, things get worse.

2:41.3

And the reason is change is extremely hard and it moves at glacial speeds and you need

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