Fighting the Rwanda Bill + Mr Kumar goes to Westminster

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🗓️ 4 April 2024

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

With the Government’s controversial Rwanda Bill currently stuck between the Commons and the Lords, this timely special episode focuses on the UK’s asylum policy. Nish takes up an invitation to speak about the issue at the House of Lords. The event has been organised by the All Party Parliamentary Group on Refugees, in conjunction with the makers of a new film called Io Capitano - which follows the perilous migration journey of two young boys travelling from Senegal to Europe in search of a better life. Nish joins Labour peer Lord Dubs, the co-chair of the APPG on Refugees, in his office afterwards to hear how he and his colleagues are “digging their heels in” to try and amend the Rwanda Bill. Lord Dubs tells Nish what he learnt from a recent trip to Calais to meet asylum seekers first-hand. They also discuss what a more humane asylum system might look like and whether the next Labour government can deliver it. Back in the studio, Nish and Coco discuss the extent to which arts and culture can have the power to bring about change.

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0:00.0	Hi this is Podte the UK I'm Coco Khan and I'm Nish Kamar. As MPs and peers
0:16.8	are way on their Easter holidays it seems they'll let anyone into the Palace
0:21.0	of Westminster including comedian. Yes I'm off to the House of Westminster, including comedian.
0:23.2	Yes, I'm off to the House of Lords for an event hosted by the All Party Parliamentary Group on refugees.
0:28.6	With the passage of the government's Rwanda bill currently on hold, it's a good time to ask what does a compassionate
0:34.1	refugee and asylum policy actually look like. That's one of the questions I'll be
0:38.5	asking labor peer Lord Dubs, a former child refugee himself who's invited me to his Westminster office.
0:44.3	Hi Nish, you're looking very dapper, is this all for me?
0:48.7	Unfortunately, Coco, it is not.
0:51.2	It is quite striking how surprised you look every time you see me wearing a shirt.
0:57.0	I was stood up a moment ago before we started recording and you said, God those trousers look ironed.
1:06.0	They did have a very defined crease, you know, and we respect it.
1:12.0	So who is this in honor of so look the background to all of this is we're
1:17.2	having a week off this week you're on holiday so but the week before you're listening to this or watching it I am going to the
1:26.7	house of Lords like I'm literally going in 10 minutes and this is all because I went to
1:32.0	see a film called I.O.
1:33.4	Capitano with our friend in New Orleans, a great playwright.
1:37.6	One of our nation's great playwrights, but also a man who, when we went to the
1:40.8	Avengers Endgame, shouted Wakanda forever when Black Panther appeared.
1:44.7	So like I only say that to say he's a relatable genius.
1:49.9	Yeah.
1:51.1	He just invited me because he had a spare ticket to see a previous screening of Io Capitano, which is an incredibly powerful film about migrants making a boat crossing from the Northern Libya border to southern Italy.
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