Joe presents Boys Don't Cry with Russell Kane, together with ASOS.

Hello and welcome to Boys Don't Cry with me, Russell Kane, the one that looks like Nick Grimshaw, but isn't, because I'm slightly more camp.

It's the show where I get two blokes together and force them to talk about the stuff

men wouldn't normally talk about if you're looking for listen there is a place for the woolly men's

group and we need to talk about male mental health and we need to have a revolution in how men talk

about those feelings listen all those things are totally necessary this is not that place this is a

spiky awkward place where I

have subjects thrust upon. It might be funny. It might be awkward. It might be revelatory. It might

be deep. We might go to places that are uncomfortable, but ultimately there's nowhere else quite

like it. We've talked about things, I don't know, height, body hair, wanking, porn, suicide, depression, disability, you name it.

I want to know what men really think.

And what annoys me at the moment is there's become a thing a persona men have to adopt.

For example, you know, not all men want to pull and just, you know, go shagging when they're on holiday.

There are some men like me that are more sensitive. That is now a script that men lyingly perform, even though every single one of them want to fuck everything that moves.

So I'm interested in getting to the truth of what's really underneath.

We've got some great guests today. It's actor, comedian and impressionist.

Luke Kempner. Hello, mate. Love your paintings. Thanks.

We've got stand-up comedian Steve Bougierer,

Booge in the house. Hey. And we've got entrepreneur turned... I mean, it says media personality here,

but you're sort of a presenter, a writer. I'm a thing. The thing, Louise Isisman. And if you

don't know her, you're willing about an hour's time when you finish listening to this.

So, there's so many things having you here, Louise, what I love about you is the role of the

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