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🗓️ 4 September 2024
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0:00.0 | What's |
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0:17.0 | I'm Tom Biliu and this is Impact Theory. Welcome back to Part 2 with investigative journalist Whitney Webb. |
0:25.0 | Let me ask, do you think that the tokenization of the natural world |
0:30.0 | helps or hinders with this, what you called the neofutal where I've heard you refer to it is like a new form of slavery where we have these two very divergent classes because when you first started describing it |
0:44.2 | it sounded kind of awesome and then by the end I thought oh like maybe this |
0:49.7 | actually creates something really terrible. |
0:52.4 | Well okay let's take the case of, you know, the Green Plus program which claims to sort of |
1:00.9 | tokenize and turn into carbon credits protected areas throughout Latin America. |
1:07.4 | So in those cases the carbon credits aren't given to the locals or the local governments to trade and make money out of and put back into their communities. |
1:15.6 | It's going through third parties that are not based in those countries and the money for the people there go into a particular fund that isn't managed by any people that live there, it's managed by, |
1:28.0 | well they haven't really been open about it, but a guy from one of the biggest insurance companies in the world locked in is ostensibly the head of it. |
1:35.0 | And they would decide when there would be certain allotments of that money and that money has can only be spent on projects that this particular group running Green Plus that again isn't based in Latin America |
1:46.4 | approves of. So in that case you're sort of |
1:50.3 | choosing how the money can be spent you're framing it publicly as for the benefit of the environment and for the benefit of these local people, |
1:58.0 | but in reality you're deciding what they're |
2:05.0 | are partners and what they're partners and whatever are tied to a lot of the same |
2:09.0 | foreign oligarchs like the Rockefeller Foundation or the Gates Foundation or entities, you know, like that that go back to some of these, you know, very, you know, wealthy families. |
2:20.1 | Ultimately, it's initiatives run by NGOs that those organizations fund, which ultimately doesn't necessarily work in the best interests of these local people who are, you know, poised to surrender these protected areas, supposedly to protect them by generating carbon |
2:36.5 | credits, but the carbon credits are going to be traded by people abroad and the decisions |
2:40.9 | about how that money is spent is being made by people who are abroad, not about the locals. |
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