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Welcome to Raising Good Humans.

I'm Dr. Eliza Pressman and today's episode is a little different because I know I say that sometimes

but it's because every once in a while I like to try a different way of getting to know you and

helping us get to know ourselves.

And in this case, I am interviewing poet and author Maggie Smith, not Maggie Smith the actor, Maggie Smith, the

poet and author. She, you might know her from the poem Goodbones because it's been widely circulated and read by an estimated a million people. She's she wrote the most exquisite New York Times best selling book.

You could make this place beautiful.

And actually that's what the topic of today's episode is about.

We're talking about her book because it just came out

on paper back this week.

It was a book I've spoken about most that was non-work related

this year.

I love it so much, and I wanted to share it with you and our

conversation is really about shifting identities particularly in this case a

divorce and motherhood,

but it is true in so many different ways,

whether you're married but shifting identities

as you get to know yourself better and you know how we can be there for each

other. So if you enjoy this episode as you know it means the world when you go to Apple Podcasts and just give a five-star rating and

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