For Bonnie Smith Whitehouse, Wonder is An Antidote to Toxic Certainty (Type 2)

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Ian Morgan Cron

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🗓️ 19 January 2023

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

Throughout her 20+ years of teaching, Professor Bonnie Smith Whitehouse, has seen a significant change in her students' ties to religion.

“I've seen them completely abandon spirituality because that drug of certainty has just gotten too toxic for them,” says Whitehouse. “And so, what is really powerful to me is wonder. It's always been really powerful to me, as an Enneagram 2.”

This week, we talk to Bonnie Smith Whitehouse about how being an Enneagram 2 has opened her eyes to an alternate posture toward spirituality.

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Bonnie Smith Whitehouse, PhD, is a writer and professor who studies storytelling, creativity, contemplation, and wonder.

Check out her book, Seasons Of Wonder

To learn more about Bonnie Smith Whitehouse, follow her on Instagram, or visit her website.

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0:00.0	bye
2:00.0	Hey, typology tribe, Ian Morgan-Kron here.
2:11.5	So excited for today's guest, my friend, my actual friend, Bonnie Smith Whitehouse PhD,
2:18.2	author of the new book, Seasons of Wonder, Making the Ordinary Sacred Through Projects,
2:23.6	prayers, reflections and rituals, and anyogram, too, Bonnie. Welcome to the show.
2:30.0	Well, thank you, Ian. It is a delight and an honor to get to talk with you and to see you today.
2:36.4	Well, we get to see each other when I'm in the country. We get to see each other every Sunday
2:43.7	at our church, St. Augustine's Episcopal Chapel in Nashville, Tennessee, where you've been for 20 years.
2:51.2	I've only been there for like eight. You've been there for 20. What a great place, right?
2:55.9	It is a wonderful place. We love St. A's. We do from the bottom of our hearts. It's a wonderful place.
3:04.4	Bonnie, you're in Anyogram 2. Tell us how you found the Anyogram and then tell us all the
3:08.6	dirty secrets of Anyogram 2's. What you love about them, what you hate about them.
3:12.4	Wow. Well, how did I learn about the Anyogram? I was in adult Sunday school a decade ago and this
3:20.1	guy named Ian came in to talk to us about his new book, about the Anyogram. I don't know if you
3:28.0	remember that. That was for most of us. I think the first time we'd ever heard of the Anyogram,
3:32.0	certainly for me. Do you hand it out, hand out that sort of summarized the types? I was sitting there
3:40.8	in the A-frame going down. That's my mom. That's my husband. That's my sister. Completely not
3:49.4	making any thinking really about who I was. Which I think is two, right? That's a two.
3:55.4	So when you went over the two, I thought, Ihr. No, that's not me. And so for the next several years,
4:02.9	actually, I must type to myself first as a four and then as a three. So as a four, I see myself
4:13.3	in for a lot, especially with the individualist individualism and with romanticism and longing for
4:22.6	you know, something different. I think there's a lot of four in that. So I kind of thought that
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