The first order I gave to the IDF about this issue is no one is messaging anything to Hamas.

They will come to us. If you will message anything to them, you will consider as the weak side.

So you need to take the assets, their tunnels, and especially their lives.

If you do so, eventually they will come to you.

And I said, put their heads under the water.

Once they don't have enough air,

they will come to breathe and they will talk to us.

And that's what happened in the first deal.

Exactly that.

It is 10 o'clock a.m. on Monday, March 3rd here in New York City. It is 5 o'clock p.m. on Monday,

March 3rd in Israel, as Israelis wind down their day. Last month, we released the first in a series of

interviews with former defense minister, General Joav Galant, telling the story of the October 7th War

from his unique vantage point. That first interview, titled Four Days in October,

focused on the drama that took place behind closed doors about the possibility of Israel,

focusing its efforts on Israel's stronger adversary, Hezbollah.

If you have not heard or seen that interview, I highly recommend following the link in the show notes.

In today's interview, we will focus on the most complicated and sadly polarizing aspect of this war, the hostages.

What to do about the hostages, how do about the hostages how to get the hostages home former defense minister general jove gallant thanks for coming back to continue

this conversation thank you very much then i'm looking forward to continuing the conversation

the last time we were together you told me i can call you joav last Last our listeners and viewers think I'm not being sufficiently respectful or formal, I am following your lead.

That's fine.

And actually, last time, we were speaking about operations and battles and war.

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