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🗓️ 1 November 2022
⏱️ 47 minutes
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Four men in Okmulgee, Oklahoma leave a friend's house on bikes on the evening of October 9th, 2022. Investigators believe that these men intended to commit a crime, or series of crimes. They are soon reported missing. On October 14th, their bodies are found in Deep For River having been shot and dismembered. After looking into the case officials believe that this act was premeditated.
In this episode of Body Bags, forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan and Jackie Howard discuss the overt violence of the murder, how to track a bicycle, how you distinguish between blood types, how investigators retrieve body parts, and much more.
Show Notes:
0:00 - Intro
1:12 - Background and overview of the case
3:20 - How do you track a bicycle?
9:45 - How do you calculate how far to extend your search?
12:10 - Police using tracking information to find the victims
15:30 - Bodies dumped in the river
16:15 - How is it physically possible to kill four men in a short period of time?
20:35 - What exactly is “a violent act”?
24:15 - The steps taken in an autopsy to distinguish between blood types
29:00 - What do two different blood types look like on a slide?
30:58 - Visual deception
32:10 - Would the victim's skeleton be visible by this point?
36:10 - How does the gruesome state of the victim’s bodies interfere with being able to figure out what happened to them?
39:40 - How do you retrieve body parts and keep them in the state they’re found?
46:05 - Wrap up
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0:00.0 | The Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan. |
0:19.6 | There's not too many things in this world that I enjoy more than going fishing. |
0:26.9 | In one particular type of fish I like to see caught in fresh water that is our catfish. |
0:35.0 | I love catfish and you know one of the hubs of cat fishing in America is actually Oklahoma. |
0:41.4 | You get up there in that red clay, those stained rivers and they catch some of the biggest |
0:48.5 | cats around. |
0:51.5 | When you go fishing sometimes you hook into things that you didn't expect to hook into. |
1:00.1 | And sometimes you find things that will just absolutely kill you to the core. |
1:07.4 | Today we're going to talk about four men who are all shot and dismembered and their bodies |
1:16.6 | were tossed into the Grand Four River in a mopey of Oklahoma. |
1:23.9 | I'm Joseph Scott Morgan and this is Body Bags. |
1:32.6 | My dear friend Jackie Howard is with me today. |
1:35.0 | She's the executive producer of Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. |
1:38.6 | Jackie you like to fish? |
1:40.3 | Would it surprise you for me to say yes I do? |
1:43.1 | I like to fish too. |
1:44.6 | And you know the thing about Oklahoma is that all those shows that you see on TV many |
1:49.7 | times. |
1:50.7 | Some of these shows from back just a few years ago have you seen these guys that go into |
1:54.2 | the river and they go noodling or they get their arms into the water and they wiggle their |
2:00.0 | fingers around and some big old cat will bite their hand and arm and they just pull it |
2:04.4 | out. |
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