Francis Collins: Foolish Hopes

Everything Happens with Kate Bowler

Everything Happens Studios

Health & Fitness, Religion & Spirituality, Society & Culture

4.8 • 4.7K Ratings

🗓️ 17 September 2024

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

We all experience seasons where all we can do is scratch our heads and say, “WHAT EVEN HAPPENED?!”

Dr. Francis Collins led the National Institutes of Health during 2020—our season of collective “WHAT EVEN HAPPENED!?” He is still picking up the pieces of heartbreak from how people responded to one another and to science at the time. Yet he hasn’t lost his faith in humanity.

In this conversation, Kate and Francis discuss:

Why faith and science seem at odds (and why they shouldn’t be)
The importance of doubt and asking questions
What happens when institutions (or their leaders) let us down and you’ll hear quite the case on practicing interdependence.
How we might all have enough foolishness to imagine we can be part of bridging the great divides we see.

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Angela Williams on the importance of community care
Maggie Jackson on what staying open-minded offers us
David Brooks on asking better questions

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0:59.2	Do you know the seasons when you ask yourself, what even happened there?
1:07.0	Like, what? I think I was there at the time, but it's entirely a blur. Maybe it was that fuzzy, snugly newborn
1:18.6	stage, or conversely, the screamy-regy didn't sleep at night at all newborn stage.
1:24.7	Or maybe you blinked and now your kids are in college.
1:28.2	Maybe it was recovering from an operation or an endless season of chronic pain.
1:34.0	Maybe you feel that way about a season of grief that has turned everything upside down,
1:39.0	or worrying about someone you love as they went through their terrible thing.
1:44.0	We face down strange, surreal, and impossible moments all the time.
1:50.0	We keep our head down, we put one foot in front of the other, because what other choice do we have?
1:57.0	I'm Kate Bowler and this is everything happens.
2:02.0	I'm always in awe of that magic that makes people endure.
2:07.8	What we can survive and who it makes us in the middle of it or if we're lucky on the other side of it.
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