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🗓️ 7 November 2024
⏱️ 65 minutes
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0:00.0 | Well, I think the primary threat is really to the rule of law, that he's been very clear in the last few months and weeks that he's really out for revenge. |
0:12.3 | He wants to take revenge on all the people that he believes have been prosecuting him or persecuting him. |
0:23.5 | And I think that this is where schedule F really matters because he couldn't get his own Justice Department you know to |
0:28.8 | go after Hillary Clinton even though he wanted them to but you know he |
0:33.3 | understands that that was a weakness of his first term and I think he's going to |
0:37.0 | put people |
0:38.2 | in key positions in the Justice Department that will enable them to open up investigations. |
0:46.5 | And now the Good Fight with Yasha Monk. |
0:58.8 | My guest today is Francis Fukuyama. |
1:04.9 | Frank is a senior fellow at the Freeman Spogley Institute at Stanford University. |
1:12.9 | He is the under-end editor of American Purpose, which is now hosted on the Persuasion platform. |
1:18.0 | And he is, of course, one of the most important and influential political scientist and public intellectuals of our time. |
1:21.6 | Frank and I tried together to process Donald Trump's rather convincing electoral victory, trying to think about what caused Trump |
1:33.7 | to overperform and Democrats to underperform, trying to make sense of the extent to which |
1:38.7 | Trump will threaten democratic institutions, thinking through the impact that his presidency will have on international |
1:48.7 | relations and especially on democracies around the world, and discussing what it is that |
1:55.2 | opponents of Donald Trump can do now, what it is that they can do better than we did in 2016, |
2:00.4 | because it's quite clear |
2:01.5 | that we have in important ways failed. |
2:05.9 | In today's bonus material, we discuss how some of the interpretations that political scientists |
2:10.9 | have of the 2016 elections have turned out to be wrong. |
2:15.3 | We discuss how Democrats insistence on an |
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