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Hi, Benjamin here. Welcome to episode 11 of Nature Hits the Books.

In this episode, I'm joined by science writer and New York Times columnist Carl Zimmer.

Carl's latest book, Airborne, The Hidden History of the Life We Breathe, was published in February.

This book dives into the invisible maelstrom

of microbial life, swirling in the air around us, examining how it helped shape our world,

and the implications that breathing it can have on human health. Carl and I focused on this latter topic, looking at efforts to show that diseases

could spread large distances through the air, the staunch resistance to this idea, and what the

rivalry between these two groups meant for public health. Carl Zimmer, thank you so much for joining me. Thank you for having me. So your book

then, Airborne, it starts pretty much with a personal experience of what it's like to be in an

enclosed space. Specifically, it's about a trip you made to see a choral group back in 2023.

Yeah, my wife and I, we went to a concert.

To go to this concert, we actually flew across the country and went to Washington State to a town called Mount Vernon.

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