This is Jim Simovan and you are listening to That UFO podcast.

Hi everyone and welcome back to that UFO podcast.

My name is Andy and I am joined today by the Rackford and Carlota A. Harris Professor

and the Department of Pathology at Stanford University School of Medicine,

a renowned immunologist and co-founder of the Sol Foundation.

Again, my pleasure to welcome back, Professor Gary Nolan to the podcast. Gary, welcome.

Thanks so much, and hello everybody.

Yes, really popular guest, Gary. I think this is maybe your third appearance on the podcast now.

So let's get to it.

A lot to get through and a lot to talk about,

especially the SAL symposium that just happened.

But before we get to that,

trying to keep up to date with the UFO topic,

these last couple of weeks has been a bit of a bumpy ride.

And I wonder, how have you found it as someone directly

involved or indirectly involved in some of these stories coming out?

Well you know I think it's exciting at one level dealing with and explaining to people what each of the

claimed revelations mean in a broader sense

and trying to separate assumptions and conclusions from the underlying data is where probably

I've spent most of my time.

You know, I think the value of the community analyzing the results or the things I should say

that have been shown or delving into the background of the individual that was the focus of the news nation is both good and bad.

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