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In Our Time

George Herbert

In Our Time

BBC

History

4.69.2K Ratings

🗓️ 5 December 2024

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

Melvyn Bragg and guests discuss the poet George Herbert (1593-1633) who, according to the French philosopher Simone Weil, wrote ‘the most beautiful poem in the world’. Herbert gave his poems on his relationship with God to a friend, to be published after his death if they offered comfort to any 'dejected pour soul' but otherwise be burned. They became so popular across the range of Christians in the 17th Century that they were printed several times, somehow uniting those who disliked each other but found a common admiration for Herbert; Charles I read them before his execution, as did his enemies. Herbert also wrote poems prolifically and brilliantly in Latin and these he shared during his lifetime both when he worked as orator at Cambridge University and as a parish priest in Bemerton near Salisbury. He went on to influence poets from Coleridge to Heaney and, in parish churches today, congregations regularly sing his poems set to music as hymns.

With

Helen Wilcox Professor Emerita of English Literature at Bangor University

Victoria Moul Formerly Professor of Early Modern Latin and English at UCL

And

Simon Jackson Director of Music and Director of Studies in English at Peterhouse, University of Cambridge

Producer: Simon Tillotson

Reading list:

Amy Charles, A Life of George Herbert (Cornell University Press, 1977)

Thomas M. Corns, The Cambridge Companion to English Poetry: Donne to Marvell (Cambridge University Press, 1993)

John Drury, Music at Midnight: The Life and Poetry of George Herbert (Penguin, 2014)

George Herbert (eds. John Drury and Victoria Moul), The Complete Poetry (Penguin, 2015)

George Herbert (ed. Helen Wilcox), The English Poems of George Herbert (Cambridge University Press, 2007)

Simon Jackson, George Herbert and Early Modern Musical Culture (Cambridge University Press, 2022)

Gary Kuchar, George Herbert and the Mystery of the Word (Palgrave Macmillan, 2017)

Cristina Malcolmson, George Herbert: A Literary Life (Palgrave Macmillan, 2004)

Victoria Moul, A Literary History of Latin and English Poetry: Bilingual Literary Culture in Early Modern England (Cambridge University Press, 2022)

Joseph H. Summers, George Herbert: His Religion and Art (first published by Chatto and Windus, 1954; Center for Medieval and Renaissance Studies, New York, 1981)

Helen Vendler, The Poetry of George Herbert (Harvard University Press, 1975)

James Boyd White, This Book of Starres: Learning to Read George Herbert (University of Michigan Press, 1995)

Helen Wilcox (ed.), George Herbert. 100 Poems (Cambridge University Press, 2021) In Our Time is a BBC Studios Audio production

Transcript

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0:00.0

In Northern Ireland, from the late 70s to the early 90s, the IRA killed over 40 alleged informers.

0:08.0

But the man who often found, tortured and sometimes killed these people on behalf of the IRA

0:12.0

was himself an informer, a secret British army agent with the codename Stakeknife.

0:18.0

Who gets to play God? And why me? Why my family?

0:21.3

When lies are still being told to this day, who do you believe?

0:25.1

I wouldn't even know where to start, and I'm with the IRA.

0:28.5

Steakknife.

0:29.7

Listen first on BBC Sounds.

0:33.8

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0:37.4

This is in our time from BBC Radio 4,

0:39.9

and this is one of more than a thousand episodes you can find on BBC Sounds and on our website.

0:45.6

If you scroll down the page for this edition, you can find a reading list to go with it.

0:49.9

I hope you enjoyed the programme.

0:52.4

Hello, George Herbert, 1593 to 1633, wrote Latin poetry of extraordinary quality and in great quantity.

1:00.8

Yet it is for his English devotional poems unpublished in his lifetime that he's been especially treasured.

1:07.2

Towards his death, Herbert handed these to a friend in case they might offer comfort to others,

1:12.4

and they vividly show Herbert enduring the pain, as well as feeling the joy of his faith,

1:17.6

and working through his relationship with God.

1:20.6

And his book soon found readers on all sides in the coming civil wars,

1:24.2

before entering the fabric of poetry in English to be taken up by Coleridge,

1:28.2

Elliot and Heaney, among others, and set to music, still sung in parish churches up and down

1:33.2

the country. We meet to discuss George Herbert, poet or return priest, as Simon Jackson,

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