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Getting Personal With Personal Finance | Laura And Ginger | Ep 529

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Brad Barrett | Choose FI Media

Financialindependence, Investing, Firemovement, Passiveincome, Frugalliving, Personalfinancepodcast, Daveramsey, Careers, Business, Earlyretirement, Habits

4.85K Ratings

🗓️ 13 January 2025

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

Laura's shares how she transitioned from a high-stress academic career to retirement. Discover the challenges of job identity, financial planning discussions with family, and the mental preparations for life after work.


  • Laura’s career as an associate professor in genetics involved heavy grant writing and significant stress, particularly as a parent.
  • The pandemic and her husband's early retirement influenced her decision to consider early retirement.
  • Conversations about financial independence often spark reflections on personal values and identity.
  • Preparing for retirement requires confronting not just financial readiness, but emotional adjustments as well.
  • Resources and tools like 'The Simple Path to Wealth' and 'Quit Like a Millionaire' served as guides in her transition.

Timestamps & Topics Discussed:

Laura is 51, an associate professor in genetics, married, with two sons in college.

  •  The Stress of Academia

    • The pressures of running a lab funded by grants; the stress impacts both her work and family life.
  •  Time Flexibility vs. Time Freedom

    • Balancing demanding work with family responsibilities and feelings of inadequacy in both roles.
  •  Deciding to Retire Early

    • Laura’s husband Eric influences her thoughts about early retirement, compounded by COVID-19 challenges.
  •  Future Uncertainty

    • Questions about identity post-retirement and grappling with the loss of career-defined self-worth.
  •  Embracing Uncertainty

    • Discussions about accepting risks without guaranteed outcomes.
  •  Financial Considerations and Planning

    • Conversations on college savings for children, family financial responsibilities, and their shared journey to determine their FI number.

  • “Balancing motherhood and a demanding career left me feeling inadequate in both roles.” 
  • “While my job offered time flexibility, it was a constant struggle to balance work with family needs.”
  • “Contemplating my identity post-retirement raises questions about who I will become next.” 
  • “Embracing uncertainty is part of the journey toward financial independence.” 
  • “Living life abundantly is more fulfilling than accumulating wealth alone.” 

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hi, everyone. It's Ginger again. Today I get to have a conversation with Laura, who is financially

0:05.3

independent, smart as can be, and nearly, nearly done with paid work. I heard her originally

0:11.8

on two sides of FI, a podcast run by her husband and his friend about, unsurprisingly, what

0:17.7

it's like to be on both sides of financial independence. I listen to a lot of

0:21.6

personal finance shows, and they all kind of fall into two categories for me. So there's like the

0:27.4

ones I really want to like. So I listen to a few episodes and then just don't have the motivation to

0:32.3

continue. Or I swing hard on the other end and I become obsessed and I don't care what the episode is about.

0:38.9

I just want to hear these two people talk.

0:41.1

And Two Sides of FI falls into that category for me.

0:43.9

So I feel like if you like Choose FI, I just cannot imagine you not liking Two Sides of FI.

0:50.1

So definitely check it out.

0:52.1

But anyway, back to Laura.

0:53.7

So in this community, we hear a lot from people who don't like their jobs and are dying to quit.

0:58.9

Like that's their motivation for financial independence.

1:02.6

Or we hear from people who like working, but they decide they'll do a different, less stressful kind of work when they reach by sort of the barista transition. But Laura is in that

1:12.8

category of people who do big, meaningful work. And that kind of work tends to influence not just

1:18.6

the world, but how people feel about themselves. People with these kind of jobs usually identify

1:23.6

with those jobs pretty intensely. I am a teacher. I am a doctor. I am a scientist.

1:29.8

And so I think they have special challenges when they walk away. Laura has agreed to talk to us

1:34.2

about this process and let us take a peek into her life at this interesting intersection. I think

1:40.1

it's going to be a great conversation. Welcome to Choose FI.

1:50.7

Music think it's going to be a great conversation. Welcome to Choose FI. Laura, thank you so much for joining us. And I wonder if you could start off with just

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