This is Monica Perez, joined today by an independent researcher, a podcast host, the host of the

underclass podcast, and definitely involved in hosting, sometimes

hosts already. Dad, how do you describe your involvement?

Yeah, so I kind of have like four shows going on right now.

Like the original, obviously my original solo work and my kind of like what uh the underclass podcast obviously is

what I originally started right and and that was what in April of 2023 I think so it's honestly

it's it's in its infancy still and in in many ways, even though I've kind of been at it seemingly nonstop.

A lot has gone on. So this is Austin Picard, if you don't know, but it is a conversation.

Our conversation is what a lot of people have been waiting for. So I think we're really on the same page. We probably think the same way, reached some of the same conclusions. So when I, I didn't even,

like, wasn't saying like, oh, I'm talking about it. But it just popped up and, like, coming up on

my streams. And I started getting emails and DMs and stuff like, oh, I'm so psyched. There are people right here like, this is going to be epic.

I'm excited for this. Been looking forward to this.

And really, I don't normally.

My people.

Yeah, I just, I don't always get that.

Sorry, my camera's a little bit way.

I think that honestly, we probably, we have to have some sort of a mutual audience to

some extent because you have had more of an

influence and impact on me personally than you probably realize. And when you came on already

dead, I think I kind of alluded to that fact because I'm telling you, Monica, it like during the

years of COVID, like you and Brad gave me this sort of lifeline and a life preserver to just, you know, logical common sense perspective and objectivity and like pursuing the truth in an objective manner in a way that was like, you know, you were attempting to be as unbiased as you

possibly could be. And that is something that, first of all, I admire and respect more than anything

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