Sam Bankman, Freed, shouldn't they call him Sam Bankman captured?

Oh no.

I don't think that's actually very good.

Not good.

I hope you're not.

You didn't say that to me with a distant hope that I'd be like no it is good.

Yeah I did say that for you.

But I can't I can't figure out how to like make it in a like all I know is

yeah phrasing.

Okay let's let's try it let's it, let's do it. Okay, Michael, Peter. What do you know about going infinite?

All I know is that I'm skeptical that this episode is going to teach me that running a years-long financial scam

is harder than administering a 10-person polycule. What do you know about this book because this is the most recent book we've ever done?

This dropped in October 2023.

I know that I in general like Michael Lewis and have read like many of his books and found them good and

What I remember from the discourse when going infinite came out this was a book about like the rise and fall of Sam Bankman-Freed that was like weirdly sympathetic

to him.

Yeah, I mean, that's a pretty good overview.

I will say that I also wanted to preface this episode by saying that I'm a big Michael Lewis fan.

Yeah. I loved Flash Boys. I love the big short. I'm a straight man who follows sports but is still fundamentally a nerd, which means that money ball is like very important to me.

This book actually kind of rules.

Oh yeah. The sole problem is that he is unable to see his subject, Sam Bankman Freed, for who he actually is.

Kind of a big problem when you put it like that, but still.

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