Tony Arterbin of Wise Wolf Gold, and he's kindly set up David Knight-Dy

Gold to take you there as well and let him know that you're coming through us.

Always good to have Tony on.

Always good to talk about the goal standard.

Gold is such a fundamental part of our civilization always has been.

And it really, gold is really the gold standard.

And so I was talking earlier today, Tony, about the chaos.

And you told me as we were off air, that was one thing that was astounding to you as well.

I'm seeing stories about what happened to

Bitcoin. First, the excitement about Trump and his Bitcoin reserve. And then the reality,

as they always say, you buy on rumor and you sell on news. So when the real thing happens,

you better get out of there because it's the rumor that

they're going to hype up.

And so that's kind of what's been happening.

But it's also been roiled by the tariffs and their chaotic nature as well.

But gold has done well in that kind of environment, hasn't it?

Well, it absolutely has. I was looking at the charts of net inflows to both

ETFs, looking at the Bitcoin ETF versus the gold ETF. And for the last eight weeks,

the gold ETFs, the exchange traded funds, have a record inflows eight weeks in a row.

And Bitcoin has slowed down to a trickle. There's this, this

polarity, this shift away from where we were, you know, three or four months ago with Bitcoin

and it's all-time high. We're seeing this, you know, supposed crypto revolution. And there was

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