Gone Hunting | She Was In My Head | 7
Over My Dead Body
Wondery
4.4 • 28.3K Ratings
🗓️ 25 September 2023
⏱️ 40 minutes
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Summary
Jennifer Portman speaks to two experts with very different views of Denise. Former FBI profiler Candice DeLong, host of Killer Psyche, and Professor Jane Monckton-Smith, a leading researcher into coercive control.
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| 0:00.0 | Wondry Plus subscribers can binge all episodes of Over My Dead Body, Gone Hunting, add free. |
| 0:07.3 | Join Wondry Plus in the Wondry app or on Apple Podcasts. |
| 0:19.6 | From Wondry, I'm Jennifer Portman, and this is Over My Dead Body, Gone Hunting. |
| 0:30.0 | Yeah, I got his blood on mine. |
| 0:33.2 | When I first started reporting on the Mike Williams story in 2006, my goal was always |
| 1:01.8 | to help Cheryl Williams find out what happened to her son. |
| 1:06.3 | And in the years that followed, we found out some answers. |
| 1:09.9 | But even now, there are questions that still linger. |
| 1:13.5 | Questions about whether Brian was telling the whole truth about what happened. |
| 1:17.7 | How are you able to get a man that's 170 pounds dead weight into that years of a room? |
| 1:25.5 | How is that? |
| 1:26.5 | It was not easy, but it was not pretty. |
| 1:30.8 | How much Denise actually knew about everything? |
| 1:34.0 | When you shot Mike Williams, the late summer, over the 12-day shot, and Denise Williams standing there with me. |
| 1:39.6 | She was in my head behind me. |
| 1:42.0 | And why Denise acted the way she did over the years? |
| 1:44.9 | She said, screaming at me, I don't ever want to hear Mike's name again. |
| 1:51.7 | I don't ever want to know anything you're doing about Mike again. |
| 1:57.6 | I have to get on with my life. |
| 2:03.8 | Which is exactly why I'm excited to be joined by two guests to help me dissect the actions of Denise and Brian. |
| 2:11.2 | My first guest is Candace DeLong, host of the podcast Killer Psychie. |
| 2:16.0 | She's a former FBI profiler and an internationally recognized homicide expert with the background as a psychiatric nurse. |
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