This is the pitchwork review. I'm Pooja Patel, the editor-in-chief, and today we're talking about the Grammys, who was nominated and more importantly, who we think should win. And later in the show, we'll get into who was snubbed, too, at least according to us. So stick around for that.

I'm here with our reviews editor, Jeremy Larson, and senior staff writer Mark Hogan.

Welcome to Music's Biggest Night.

Hey, friends.

Thank you.

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Mark, can I ask, how does it feel?

You know, I think of you as our music industry guy, which means that I also think of you as our Grammys guy, though I know you have

very strong feelings about the Grammys. I don't know. I mean, it feels like it's sort of the

equivalent of like an industry convention, you know, or a trade show almost. It's, it's, here's

where the industry comes together to celebrate itself. And, you know, I mean,

there's lots of talented musicians who are among the voters and execs and that sort of thing.

It's interesting to hear it called a trade show, a big conference in an arena, because I feel like we have a kind of interesting relationship with the

Grammys being a indie-spirited indie music publication that does genuinely love pop music

and genuinely loves all of the things that the Grammys celebrate. Let me backtrack.

Let's say like 45% of the things that the Grammys celebrate, 45 to 75% of the things that the

Grammys celebrate. But I feel like it's always kind of strange because there's this weird

disconnect between how much we actually care. Like,

there is this weird thing about how we do care who wins, how we're always hoping for the

Grammys to make the right decisions. And then also, it's not necessarily speaking to us,

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