Granite Mountain Hotshots Disaster | One Foot in the Black | 5
Against The Odds
Wondery
4.7 • 7.2K Ratings
🗓️ 17 October 2023
⏱️ 40 minutes
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Summary
Kyle Dickman remembers the exact moment he learned about the fate of the Granite Mountain Hotshots. As a former firefighter and hotshot himself, the news hit him hard. He reported on the tragedy for Outside magazine, then spent the next two years researching and writing his book, On the Burning Edge: A Fateful Fire and the Men Who Fought It. Today, Kyle joins host Mike Corey to talk about the disaster and raise some tough questions about how wildland fires are fought.
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| 0:00.0 | A note to our listeners, this episode contains explicit language. |
| 0:04.0 | Please be advised. |
| 0:12.0 | From Wondery, I'm Mike Corey. |
| 0:14.0 | And this is Against the Odds. |
| 0:31.0 | Over the last four episodes, we've told the story of the 19 granite mountain hot shots |
| 0:37.0 | who died on June 30, 2013 in Arizona's Yarnal Hill Fire. |
| 0:42.0 | We may never know exactly why the hot shot team went into the ravine or the fire overcame them, |
| 0:48.0 | but it's something my guest, Kyle Dickman, has spent a lot of time thinking about. |
| 0:53.0 | Kyle is a writer and contributing editor for Outside Magazine, |
| 0:57.0 | his experience working as a firefighter and a hot shot helped him write on the burning edge |
| 1:03.0 | a fateful fire and the men who fought it. |
| 1:06.0 | Kyle Dickman, welcome to Against the Odds. |
| 1:09.0 | Well, thanks for having me. |
| 1:10.0 | In your previous life before becoming a journalist, you worked as a firefighter and as a hot shot. |
| 1:16.0 | Can you tell us where you did this and mostly what was your job? |
| 1:21.0 | So I was a hot shot on a crew called the Tahoe hot shots in northern California. |
| 1:25.0 | And I spent four years on engine crew before going to the hot shots. |
| 1:30.0 | And my job was just like it was a grunt. |
| 1:32.0 | If we had a fire on our engine crew, I would roll hose out and spray the fire with the hose or on the hot shot crew. |
| 1:38.0 | So it was to walk fast in the woods and then it was to swing up Alaska and do it fast. |
| 1:44.0 | What's a Polaski? |
| 1:45.0 | A Polaski is like an axe. |
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