There is no timeline in grief.

If you are, it's a week ago, it's a month ago.

I'm sitting there witnessing.

You're four years in, aren't getting out of the house,

or you're not getting back in relationships.

I'm going to be a little tougher coach.

There you go.

What's up? What's going on?

This is John with the Dr. John Deloney's show.

I'm so glad you're with us.

We're talking about your emotional and mental health, your relationships, whatever you got going on in your life. I'm going to sit here. I'm going to

sit with you and we're going to figure out what's the next right move. On today's episode,

we have a second part of one of my favorite conversations I've ever had with one of my heroes,

the great David Kessler.

David Kessler is a world-renowned expert on grief. And nobody likes to talk about grief,

but grief impacts every single person living and breathing right now, including you and including

me. And we have to grieve the big things, the small things,

and we have a grief illiterate world, as he says. And so in this part two, we're talking about

grief demanding a witness, something that I've been saying forever and ever, and I got the line

from him, and so much more. So I've got his book here, by the way,

the sixth stage of grief workbook for anyone who's struggling

and we'll link to it in the show notes.

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