Grief Theory (Deep Dive) #2 (Your Emails) (2020 Rerun)
Psychology In Seattle Podcast
Kirk Honda
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🗓️ 13 March 2025
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December 16, 2020
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| 0:00.0 | Hey, deserving listeners. Two days ago, I published an episode in which I talked about grief theory. |
| 0:04.6 | It was for patrons only. I went into detail on Freud, a little bit on Melanie Klein, a lot into the dual process, and other kinds of issues. |
| 0:15.2 | And so listen to that episode. And in this episode, I'm going to answer emails about grief. So let's get into it. |
| 0:21.6 | This first question is from Superfan Louise. She writes, grief feels similar to depression, |
| 0:28.9 | except for the way grief can come in intense waves when you least expect it. How is grief related |
| 0:35.6 | to depression? Great question. Louise, it's complicated. It kind of |
| 0:41.0 | depends on the definition of depression that we use and also how one understands depression and also |
| 0:48.7 | the definition of grief and how one understands grief. These are constructs in psychology. |
| 0:56.0 | We construct the definition and then we apply it. |
| 1:00.4 | It's a model. |
| 1:02.2 | It's a model of how to look at people and how to categorize people. |
| 1:07.0 | Depression is a very varied thing. |
| 1:10.2 | There's a lot of different experiences that we will call depression |
| 1:13.8 | and grief as well. There's a lot of different people who we would categorize as experiencing |
| 1:20.2 | grief, grief, emotionality, grief-free activity, who are very different from each other, right? |
| 1:29.2 | So, of course, there's going to be some overlap. And categorically and diagnostically, if we were to use the diagnosis of complicated |
| 1:35.3 | grief, there's a lot of comorbidity between complicated grief and depression. Some would say |
| 1:40.8 | that if you are depressed going through an complicated grief process, |
| 1:47.6 | that the depressive symptoms are just a part of the complicated grief. |
| 1:51.0 | Other people would say that they're different. |
| 1:52.3 | So really, to answer your question, Louise, is that, you know, how is grief related to depression? |
| 1:58.1 | Well, it depends on the definitions that you're using for both of those |
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