Grover Cleveland, known for being a president.

Famous for non-consecutive president.

Nobody thinks much about him, so let's have some fun.

Let's find out why Gro think it is. My name is Alex Schmidt and I'm not alone because I'm joined by my co-host Katie Golden. Katie, what is your relationship to or opinion of Grover Cleveland?

We're tight, man. We're close. He's my, he's my boy. He's my home buddy.

Old grovee. Old grovee. We're going to talk about his real nickname later, so I'm pretty

excited to get there. Yeah. Super Grover.

No, I was very studious as a kid, except when it came to presidents.

Like, I could not will myself to care about old presidents.

And, you know, you say Grover Cleveland, you say Howard Taft, they all blended together.

And I just kind of like, okay, mutton chops gels, mutton chops, gels.

I don't know where one mutton chop ends and another gel begins.

I like know the main ones.

Like I can distinguish.

I understand that there's two Roosevelt's.

One is the Teddy and one is the FDR.

I get that.

Abraham Lincoln.

Cool president.

I'll learn about him all day.

He's got that hat.

It's really tall.

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