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Hidden: A True Crime Podcast

GUILTY Verdict Reaction with Criminal Psychologist | Lori Vallow Daybell

Hidden: A True Crime Podcast

Hidden True Crime

True Crime, Society & Culture, News Commentary, Documentary, News

4.81.9K Ratings

🗓️ 23 April 2025

⏱️ 99 minutes

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Summary

Lori Vallow Daybell has officially been found guilty of conspiracy for the murder of Charles Vallow. Shortly after the verdict, Dr. John and Lauren sat down live, to break down the latest in the case. From Lori's closing arguments to her admission of aggravating factors and even the psychology of all of these crimes. About Hidden True Crime: What started as a simple conversation at their dinner table became a captivating podcast. Join the dynamic duo of Dr. John Matthias, a criminal psychologist, and Lauren Matthias, an investigative journalist, as they delve into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes every week. Their unique perspectives and in-depth analysis offer a fresh take on true crime storytelling. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello, everybody. Hello, Jims, who I have essentially been with all day, except for the moment where I had a jump in an Uber or a Waymo here in Phoenix and come and jump on this live. And hello. Hello, co-host. Hello, John.

0:21.3

How's your day, Ben?

0:25.6

I'm still catching my breath and drinking water and filling up with liquids.

0:32.6

It got really, really hot in Phoenix today.

0:34.8

Same here, by the way.

0:36.2

Same there.

0:36.7

In Las Vegas, yeah.

0:38.3

I'm not surprised.

0:41.5

What just took place was wild.

0:44.4

And I know that a lot of our gems have been with us all day and our Vertig watch live feed,

0:49.8

as well as my two lives after court.

0:53.6

We had two lives because my phone ran out of batteries in the middle of the press conference

0:58.6

as Kay Woodcock was speaking, but we talked to three jurors today, John, three out of the

1:04.3

12 that were deliberating in there.

1:07.9

And it was interesting that they just learned just learned right

1:13.1

before they walked out about tylie and j jay and tammie they did not know that and one of the

1:20.6

jurors said that they were going and leaving to watch the Netflix doc that you're in with their

1:26.8

grandma because a lot of family members of the jurors

1:30.4

knew Lori Valo-Dabell and their jaws dropped, but they did not say anything to the jurors.

1:37.7

So I'm still processing that.

1:39.6

I'm processing a guilty verdict and the verdict I just saw.

1:43.4

And Lori stipulated and the sentencing

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