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Call Me Back - with Dan Senor

Hamas’s psychological warfare — with Haviv Rettig Gur

Call Me Back - with Dan Senor

Ark Media

Society, Foreign Policy, Geopolitics, Israel, News Commentary, News, Politics, Elections, Palestine, Dan Senor, Government

4.82.3K Ratings

🗓️ 4 December 2023

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

In today’s weekly check-in with Haviv Rettig Gur of The Times of Israel, we discuss the volatility in Israel, as Israelis pivoted from fighting the war to collectively embracing returning hostages during the pause in fighting. And, now, the IDF and Israeli society at large have pivoted back to fighting the war.

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0:00.0

There is this pressure, this desire for Israel to say, here's what's going to be the day after,

0:05.0

we have it all planned out, so that the supporters of Israel in the West, the Biden administration,

0:11.0

the governments of France and Britain and Germany and others, can say there is an end game.

0:17.6

These people aren't dying because the Israelis are going crazy.

0:20.5

This isn't about revenge.

0:22.2

This is good smart policy that will bring a better tomorrow at the other end of this admittedly awful bloody war.

0:28.0

Here's the problem.

0:30.0

Israel doesn't think of Hamas the way America thought of the Saddam regime.

0:37.0

This is not about, you know, why are we going to war?

0:40.0

Democratization.

0:41.0

Why are we going to war, a new Middle East. If we don't have that

0:45.2

answer of why we don't get to go to war. You know when they weren't asking

0:49.7

why are we going to war against Nazi Germany? They weren't asking why are we going to war

0:54.2

against Imperial Japan and the reason people weren't asking that is because it was

0:57.6

obvious to everyone that at an existential level the first priority is to remove the mortal threat that these governments and

1:05.0

empires represented. Israel facing Hamas sees a mortal threat. It is a mortal threat

1:11.4

not just because it's Hamas but because it's part of the broader Iranian axis that has become a noose around Israel's neck.

1:17.5

It is a mortal threat because it threatens to do it again and again and again and again.

1:21.5

The war won't end and Hamas will be removed. That is the day after. It is 11 p.m. on Sunday, December 3rd here in New York City. It's 6 a.m. on Monday morning, December the 4th in Israel, as Israelis get ready to start their day.

1:50.9

Let's begin with a few updates on the war in Gaza. This past Friday after the seventh

1:57.4

group of Israeli women and children were released in the ongoing hostage

2:01.4

negotiations and deal between Israel and Hamas the ceasefire ended as

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