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The Happiness Lab with Dr. Laurie Santos

Harnessing People Around us to Feel Happier (Live with Ethan Kross)

The Happiness Lab with Dr. Laurie Santos

Pushkin Industries

Society & Culture, Health & Fitness

4.714.6K Ratings

🗓️ 10 March 2025

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

Hell is other people. They can upset us, depress us and infuriate us. Their bad moods can bring us down. And their achievements can make us feel like failures. But it doesn't have to be this way.   

Psychologist Ethan Kross says there are simple things we can do to make our daily interactions a source of fulfilment and joy. 

Ethan's the author of Shift: Managing Your Emotions So They Don't Manage You and founder of the Emotion and Self Control Lab at the University of Michigan

Recorded before a live audience of teen students at Choate Rosemary Hall.

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0:00.0

Pushkin.

0:10.8

Hey, Happiness Lab listeners. Today, you're in for a special treat. If you're a regular

0:17.7

listener of this podcast, you've probably already gotten a chance to hear from

0:20.9

my good friend, the psychologist Ethan Cross. In fact, Ethan just visited the show as part of our recent

0:26.2

how-to season, where he gave us his top tips for hacking negative emotions. Lots of these ideas

0:31.3

come from his new book, Shift, managing your emotions so they don't manage you. But in that interview,

0:36.6

we only got to scratch the

0:37.6

surface of the cool work that Ethan does in his emotion and self-control lab at the University

0:41.9

of Michigan. So to mark the publication of his new book, Ethan asked me to join him on stage

0:46.7

for a live recording of this podcast at Choate Rosemary Hall, an independent school not too far from

0:52.1

my hometown at New Haven, Connecticut.

0:58.7

In front of an audience of teen students, Ethan and I got to chat not about hacking our emotions,

1:04.1

but about the effect that other people can have on our feelings, and the big effects we can have on other people, too.

1:07.7

I definitely learned a lot from this conversation, and I think you will too.

1:14.1

Welcome to the Happiness Lab Live, where we are coming in from Chote Rosemary Hall.

1:20.3

We have a fantastic audience of folks here for a really fun conversation with one of my favorite psychologist, Ethan Cross.

1:26.3

So Ethan is a professor at the University of Michigan, both in the psychology department

1:30.5

and at the Roth School of Business.

1:32.1

He's the director of the emotion and self-control lab.

1:34.4

He's an expert on strategies we can use to control our thoughts, feelings, and behaviors.

1:39.5

As you might guess with an expertise, the school, Ethan's a sought-after consultant

1:43.5

and speaker.

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