When I was growing up from good times all the way to fresh prints I was seeing a different type of blackness where it wasn't its full complexity and so I was like we got to get to that and then the music filters to us and the style filters are, and the vibe filter, you get what I'm saying.

I do. And because it is novel and because it seems to be completely like, you know, devoid of all conflict and struggle in a weird way, we aspire to it.

And then I came to America, and then I met black Americans who were all like,

man, I can't wait to get to Africa, man, I can't wait.

They're like, man, I got a man wait and I was like wait what I was like

wait wait my cousins were trying to sound like Tupac you know what I mean my

cousins were trying and I was like wait we're trying to come here and you're

trying to come here and you're trying to come here.

Tanahasi Coates is not just one of the sharpest and most beautiful writers working today.

Every time he puts something out, it seems to

shake the world. The case for reparations, between the world and me, his work on

Black Panther, and his new book, The Message, is no no different because in it he travels to South

Carolina to tackle book banning he goes to Senegal to rediscover roots that he's not

sure he has and then he delves into one of the most difficult subjects in the world today

Israel-Palestine most people know his work but very few people know the man behind the words. And so this week I sat down with him and my

good friend Christina to get into the conversations that he doesn't always get to have.

Try and figure out how and why he sees the world the way he does.

This is what now with Trevanoa.

So yeah, man,

tell how's yousee, welcome man.

Thanks for having me.

This is what we're going to do the whole show because I can do.

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