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Call Me Back - with Dan Senor

Haviv Rettig Gur (Part 1) - 100 Days into Israel's 'Forever War'

Call Me Back - with Dan Senor

Ark Media

Society, Foreign Policy, Geopolitics, Israel, News Commentary, News, Politics, Elections, Palestine, Dan Senor, Government

4.82.3K Ratings

🗓️ 15 January 2024

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

This past weekend, Israelis marked 100 days since the Hamas massacre -- and 100 days that 136 hostages, of all ages, still remain captive in unimaginable conditions. We resume our weekly conversation with Haviv Rettig Gur of THE TIMES OF ISRAEL to discuss where the war goes from here. Does it end? Can it end? How? And what has Israel learned about how to proceed? This conversation is divided into two parts. PART I focuses on what we are learning about Israel’s vulnerability now and going forward. PART II focuses on what we are learning about the divide inside the Arab world in its reaction to these past 100 days, but also the reality that Israel may be in a 'forever war.'

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0:00.0

Why would the Iranian regime, which doesn't believe in rights for its own people,

0:03.4

bother with Palestinian rights and invest in it in billions and billions that it doesn't have

0:08.5

in a years-long expensive multi-front war for Palestinian rights?

0:12.1

Because it has nothing to do with Palestinian rights.

0:15.0

It has to do with allowing Islam to come back as a force in history and proving that they are not far and distant from their God.

0:23.0

Their whole point is to return Islam to God's embrace

0:27.0

and as long as Israel exists, that's obvious evidence.

0:30.0

That's incontrovertible evidence.

0:31.0

Because the Jews are so weak, that's incontrovertible evidence because the Jews are so weak that's incontrovertible evidence that

0:35.2

Islam does not in fact have God's grace.

0:38.4

And so for Hamas on October 7th, the humiliation, the videotaping and the broadcasting live of the humiliation was the core message.

0:51.1

What is the Abraham Accords? Over the last 20 years, the Saudis and the Emirates, the Conservative Sunni regimes Jordan and Morocco,

1:00.0

they have understood the disastrous potential contained in these visions of Islamic renewal.

1:08.4

And these are ideologies that destroy countries and have perpetual war at their heart.

1:13.7

And they've turned on them. As Israel marks 100 days since the Hamas massacre, since the mass slaughter, torture, sexual violence, mutilation and

1:36.9

decapitation of innocent people, burning them after they were dead and

1:42.0

burning others while they were still alive. I say all

1:46.4

this because there is a tendency to become numb to what occurred 100 days ago

1:52.3

as time passes on. And I say this because there are still

1:57.5

136 hostages of all ages that still remain captive in unimaginable conditions for 100 days.

2:07.0

However, those conditions are not unimaginable because we've heard reports from those hostages who've returned what exactly those conditions are like.

2:18.0

Today I resume my weekly conversation with Haviva Reticour from Jerusalem.

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