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Here Be Monsters

HBM133: Prey of Worms

Here Be Monsters

Here Be Monsters Podcast

Science, Society & Culture, Social Sciences, Personal Journals, Documentary

4.61.3K Ratings

🗓️ 18 March 2020

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

Bodies are odd.  Anyone who can see their own nose will tell you the same.  So will anyone whose diet changed their body odor.  And so will anyone who’s ever felt their phone vibrate in their pocket only to later realize it was a phantom ring


Our bodies make stuff up constantly and do plenty of questionable things without asking our permission first.  It can feel disorienting, especially due to the fact that being our sole points of reference, they’re hard to see outside of.  So, people invent analogies for the body, ways to understand what it is, and how to use it. 


On this episode, Jeff interviews the operators of several bodies on the models they’ve developed to help them navigate the strangeness of the world we live in. 


Dr. Kelly Bowen is a naturopath in Seattle, Washington. 


Juliana Castro is the senior designer at Access Now and the founder of Cita Press


David Schellenberg is the singer and guitarist of Tunic, a noise punk band from Winnipeg, Manitoba. 


Divya Anantharaman is the owner of Gotham Taxidermy in New York City. Divya’s been on the show before dissassembling birds and explaining taxidermy.  See HBM093: The Brain Scoop


Tammy Denton Clark is a medical social worker in southern Utah.  She’s also the mother of HBM co-host Bethany Denton.


In the life of a man, his time is but a moment, his being an incessant flux, his senses a dim rushlight, his body a prey of worms, his soul an unquiet eddy, his fortune dark, and his fame doubtful. In short, all that is of the body is as coursing waters, all that is of the soul as dreams and vapors; life a warfare, a brief sojourning in an alien land; and after repute, oblivion.  —Marcus Auralius, Meditations, circa 180 AD. Translation by Maxwell Staniforth.


Producer: Jeff Emtman

Editor: Bethany Denton

Music: The Black Spot, Tunic, Serocell, August.Belcher Friis  (👈 New!)

Thank you Allison Behringer of the Bodies Podcast for sharing Juliana’s comic about bodies of water

Thank you Jackie Scott for helping record the freight elevator noises heard in this episode. 

Transcript

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0:00.0

From KCRW, this is here be monsters.

0:06.6

This is here be monsters.

0:19.9

So you know it was about eight years ago when I started this show. I was kind of thinking of like ways to address some of my post college anxieties which were strong.

0:25.6

Getting out into the world and being expected to know things was was actually a really heavy

0:30.3

weight on me and I was kind of having a lot of trouble sleeping in that year.

0:34.4

So I kind of started this show as a way to address those things, right? The way I've been thinking

0:39.6

up in lately is to kind of like make a public park almost right like a really beautiful place

0:44.0

that that doesn't have any walls around it there's plenty of beautiful places in the

0:48.3

world that are all surrounded by tall walls but I want to kind of do something a little bit more accessible to people, right?

0:57.2

And so that's how this podcast started.

0:59.6

And it was, yeah, it was meant to be this beautiful space that people could come experience with me.

1:04.8

And there's a little bit of irony in making a project like that because oftentimes in the pursuit

1:09.7

of making something beautiful and calming and accessible.

1:14.9

Well, you can become un-beautiful and un-calm and inaccessible.

1:21.4

And so it's kind of this thing I've been feeling lately in my body again where I've re-emerged into some of that insomnia that I was feeling before I started making the show and I've been feeling this like new tightness in my neck and

1:35.2

I've been slouching more. It's been getting me thinking a lot about my body. I think

1:41.2

it's really hard to talk about body sometimes though because it's our sole point of reference right like you can't step outside of your body at least not not usually right like you can't step outside of your body and look at it.

1:53.2

So unrelated to all this, I recently picked up this book that was written about 2,000 years ago

1:59.7

by the Roman Emperor Marcus Aurelius.

2:02.8

And so this book I picked up is called Meditations.

2:04.9

And it was actually just his personal journals

2:07.0

that he didn't ever intend to publish to anyone

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