To do this section sometimes if like in the past it's felt forced like having to think about it.

Like I don't know. It became like a routine almost. You know what I'm saying?

Like all you have to like which isn't bad.

It wasn't like, oh yeah this moment was joy.

You know what I'm saying?

I mean that was said that's probably sad honestly like I think if you feel forced to sit down and think about a moment that's brought you joy. Either joy is, I would say that we've been conditioned to not search for joyous moments.

Thus life is void of joy or your life is actually void of joy,

which I don't think is true.

I'll probably say it's the former, the first part.

Yeah, I think some of it's also around just the way

is become very like co-opted, liberalized, and individualized, you know, with like the

propaganda machine is like, I'll just self-care, find your joy, joy find your peace you know just the very liberal

essence was made me I mean you see like black joy black boy joy black girl

magic all these things that are used like a remember I think we was at target once and it was like

black girl magic wine it's like what is this wine is like why is this wine is

like poisonous I mean but also if we look at the real material conditions of black girls of black women in this country

whether it be literacy rates whether it be sterilization whether it be jail whether it be victims of domestic violence whether it be poverty rates

The magic is not in the wine that's not going to liberate them you know black boy joy if you look at the rate of a literacy rate for black boys, incarceration,

suspended from school, poverty,

the likelihood of going to jail, right, violence,

like what is black boy joy if the highest level of black joy

a sovereignty but we can still look for I mean that you know we ain't free

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