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He Couldn’t Teach ‘Slavery Was Wrong.’ So He Quit.

What Next | Daily News and Analysis

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4.62.3K Ratings

🗓️ 17 April 2023

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

Iowa was one of the first states in the country to pass legislation against teaching that the United States is systemically racist — an idea some equate with “critical race theory.” But when one social studies teacher asked how he could teach U.S. history without running afoul of the new law, he didn’t get any clarity — or help. What happens when legislation targets teachers? And as America’s teacher shortage grows — what will this mean for the country’s kids? Guest: Greg Wickenkamp, former eighth grade social studies teacher in Fairfield, Iowa. If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get benefits like zero ads on any Slate podcast, bonus episodes of shows like Slow Burn and Amicus—and you’ll be supporting the work we do here on What Next. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to help support our work. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

I called up Greg Wickencamp to ask him to walk me through a very awkward Zoom call.

0:12.4

Hi, Dr. Nell.

0:13.9

Oh, you might be muted there, I think.

0:18.2

Greg was working as an eighth grade social studies teacher in Fairfield, Iowa, when he recorded

0:22.9

this conversation.

0:24.8

And the Zoom was with his boss, the superintendent, who had been trying to speak with for months.

0:29.9

But I was hoping to kind of run through some things that have been concerning me for some

0:36.9

time and hopefully get some insights if that works for you.

0:44.7

Greg was hoping to talk about this new law that he was struggling to comply with.

0:49.3

One of those bills that bans the discussion of, quote unquote, divisive content.

0:54.4

Greg wanted the district to be clear about what divisive content was.

1:00.0

He tried emailing the district that had not worked.

1:03.8

He thought that fit a pattern at his school.

1:07.8

To similarly flippants and seemingly gaslighting responses are often made.

1:15.1

Going into this meeting, things were coming to a head for Greg personally.

1:19.6

He had been complaints about how he taught.

1:22.3

He used Ibrahim X. Kendi's anti-racist book, Stamped, from the beginning.

1:27.0

The indigenous people's history of the United States, too.

1:32.1

So you wanted to meet with your superintendent just to be like, do you have my back here?

1:35.8

Like I'm using these books.

1:37.2

Like are we good?

1:38.8

Exactly, exactly.

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