I'm Autumn Brown, a queer science fiction writer, a

theologian, and assumed to be on sabbatical mother of dragons, living on Dakota and

in a Shinabe land currently known as Minneapolis.

I'm A.J. Marine Brown, writer of stories and songs, emergent strategists, pleasure activists,

and sci-fi writers, living in the land of the Shakuri, Peru, Cospuara, and London peoples.

And this is how to survive the end of the world.

Our podcast about learning from apocalypse with grace, rigor, and curiosity.

This is a bonus episode that we had to slip in between seasons because a very exciting

project that means a lot to both of us has entered the world this week.

The project is called Healing Justice Lineager, and we are blessed to have the co-authors,

both of them, here today for basically a session of gushing and celebrations.

So we wanted to welcome Kara Page and Erica Woodland to our podcast.

I'm going to get to Cospuara, and then we're going to get into the conversation.

So Kara Page, best voice on Planet Earth, an incredible Audrey Lorde scholar who was the

executive director of the Audrey Lorde project for years, an artist, and poet, and theatrical

thought maker, a Healing Justice co-dreamer, and a co-creator of so many crucial justice

projects, including Kindred Southern Healing Justice Collective, and most recently the

Anteugenics project.

And then Erica Woodland, who is the study capricorn with the most disarming smile, a gifted

therapist, a gifted practitioner, fun to party with, and a founder of the National Queer

and Trans Therapist of Color Network.

Hello beloved listeners, this is Adrienne coming to tell you I was wrong, yes I was wrong.

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