If you're like a lot of folks, you look really put together on the outside, but on the inside,

there's this unprocessed shame, anger, or grief. Little by little, you're becoming disconnected

from who you really are. But my guest today says it doesn't have to be that way.

Welcome to The Roy's Report, a podcast dedicated to reporting the truth and restoring the church.

I'm Julie Roy's.

In joining me today is Professor, Author, and Licensed Therapist Chuck de Groat.

You may know Chuck is the author of his very popular 2020 book when narcissism comes to church. But in his newest book,

Healing What's Within, Chuck talks about one of the most traumatic experiences of his life

when he got fired from his job at a church. And Chuck did what a lot of us do when we're

experiencing excruciating pain. He pushed it down and soldiered through. After all, he had a family

to support and a career to salvage. But eventually, that trauma began to manifest in his body,

and he found he could no longer ignore the pain or rely on his means of coping. He had to confront

the profound disconnection he felt from himself, from others, and from God.

Friends, if you've been through trauma, and today you're feeling not okay, this episode is for you.

And I want you to know there is hope. I'm going to get to my interview with Chuck in just a moment,

but first, I want to thank the sponsors of this podcast, the Restore Conference,

and Mark Horda Barrington. If you're someone who's experienced church hurt or abuse, there are

a few places you can go to pursue healing. Similarly, if you're an advocate, counselor, or pastor,

there are a few conferences designed to equip you to minister to people traumatized in the church.

But the Restore Conference, this February 7th and 8th in Phoenix, Arizona, is designed to do just that. Joining us will be leading abuse survivor advocates like Mary DeMuth and Dr. David Pooleur, an expert in adult clergy sexual abuse.

Also joining us will be Scott McKnight, author of A Church

Called Toe, Diane Langberg, a psychologist and trauma expert, yours truly, and more. For more

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