Hello Heather Roan Robbins. I'm Debbie Frank and here we both are on the Heel Your Life podcast. Isn't that fabulous? Yes. It's wonderful. And well you have a fabulous book that's just come out,

Star codes.

Thank you, yes. It's very nice and mine is coming out July the second so we're both

Hayhouse authors both astrologers and we have so much to talk about I'm so delighted

to meet you. So what a title, Star Codes,

navigate your chart with choice-based astrology. That is so intriguing and it's such a wonderful concept.

Obviously being an astrologer myself, I'm sure you've encountered this many times,

this sort of idea that you know the planets do things to us you know that's

such a misconception isn't it Heather so to actually you know pop it in the title like that, that in fact, we're not disempowered, are we?

Do you want to tell me a bit about that and your take on it?

Exactly my approach, and I said I specialize sometimes in bad reading rehab for people

who have been to a reading and and it their choices have been limited and they've been told this is fate this is going to happen

not here are the tools and the map that you need to make the most out of this time.

How do you redirect the energy?

You know we talk about how every planet, every symbol, every placement has 180 degrees of expression.

And it's free will and grace where in that line of expression you experience. Now you can't avoid

everything but you often find that if you work with the chart it's you can stop a river, but you can redirect a river.

You can't stop a transit, but you can work with it and use it to the best of its ability

rather than fight it and end up feeling the brunt of it.

But you can and also notice when the paths are opening up and take advantage of that openness in your life or the quiet spell or the spiritual time and work with it rather than fight it.

I always think of that how do you constellate versus be a disaster against the stars?

Yes, exactly.

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