Hello my friends.

friends welcome to another episode of follow him.

My name's Hank Smith.

I'm your host.

I'm here with my co-host, John by the way, who I describe as with unweariness has declared the word.

John for the last 150 years, you have declared with unweariness the word.

That is a description of Nephi in Heilaman chapter 10.

John, Book of Heilaman, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, what are we looking forward to, do you think?

I really like this because it's a story, the fact that Nephi has been out on a mission,

they remembered the words of their father, you know, the Heelman Five thing about

build on the rock of Christ. They go and then he comes back and he sees problems among his own people and how he deals with that. It's fun to watch and to imagine how he might have felt coming

back home and going, we've got problems in my own backyard.

John, we are joined this week by Professor Shema Boffman.

She is wonderful.

If we can call you Shema, you are Professor Boffman,

you've earned it, but if it's okay, we'll call you Shema.

No, Shema is perfect.

What are we looking forward to today where are we going to go

you'll have in the story of a downfall in a relatively brief period 52 years of the Nephites and in just 40 years five chief judges are murdered and

secretly killed through the conspiracies. We're studying one murder today

the Cizora murder. I think these chapters give us insight on what might be at the root of our

sins. Pride, forgetfulness of God. In the case of the Nephites, it leads to lawlessness,

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