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Hi, this is Dana Stevens, Slate's movie critic, here with the Slate Spoiler Special podcast on Spike Jones's Her.

And I should say, before I get started, thank you to all of you who have been waiting for months for the next Spoiler Special podcast.

Thanks for sticking around.

We had a hiatus between producers.

We had a very overburdened, wonderful audio producer, Chris Wade, who just had too much else going on to do any spoilers toward the end of last year. But we're going to start up in earnest. And the first thing we're going to do is go back and cover some of the big movies from last year that I know people were really curious to hear spoilers about. So today we are starting with Spike Jones's Her, which I suspect is about to be nominated for a bunch of awards and be the subject of conversation for months to come.

It's a really, really fun movie to talk about, whatever you think of it as a film.

And so joining me here in Slate's New York Studio to talk about her is Forrest Wickman, who is Broadway contributors, Slate writer, Forrest.

Thanks for coming in. Hey, Dana. And Davidbeat contributor, Slate Writer, Forrest. Thanks for coming in.

Hey, Dana.

And David Hagland, also Senior Slate Editor and Editor of Browbeat. Thanks for coming in.

Thanks, Dana.

So we did not see her together, right? You guys saw it a while back now. But it seems like we've got a pretty good conversation here.

I wanted to get somebody in who didn't love the movie so much. That would be you, David. You're not necessarily playing the role of, you know, the, the hater,

the devil's advocate or anything, but you're not 100%. Right. I think the first thing I said to Forrest

when I came back from, came back to work on Monday having seen the movie was I did not love it. That was my initial reaction. And I think my reaction has become more negative as time as that.

Have you seen it again since then?

No, I'd like to.

Mostly to kind of as a gut check, because I think a lot of my reaction was just that it failed to move me.

And maybe on a second viewing it would, although I doubt it.

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